Carnatic Vocal Training

[Giri Vasu]

Hi,

The question I had in mind is how CM vocal training is accomplished using shruti box. Isn't shruti box is tuned to WM pitches like a= 440hz? From a lot of discussion on the net I am under the impression that harmonium and shruti boxes are tuned to WM pitches. Whereas CM is tuned to just intonation. I am not trying to start a flame war. Just curious as to how get a sense of placement of notes when singing notes like as to how high should one go say singing from one note to another.

If it is the relative pitch, then what tool is need to tell the difference.

Thanks

Giri Vasu

[insscrud]

hey!
it seems like i have a rather drastic difference in understanding the terms u put forward.
so, to answer ur first question, the shruti box sends out sounds waves that have a specific frequency right? and so does a vocalist when he sustains a note. so by trying to accomplish a perfect merger of the two frequencies (that of the shruit box and the voice), there is shruti "shuddhate" (purity). thats how it helps vocal training......if thats what IS vocal training (besides many other practices involved).
assuming WM meant western music, i always thot intonations are the finer aspects of singing that include modulation, bhava etc after uve gotten the basics right.......going this way, i dont quite fathom how a shruti box cud be tuned by intonations
ive run out of wisdom now.......
just a perspective, however.
megha

[Giri Vasu]

Hi,

My two cents on the tuning of WM and ICM or CM. WM tuning is equi-temperament i.e the whole octave is divided in 1200 cents and the gap between two adjacent notes is 100 cents. C to C has 13 notes, i.e 12 gaps * 100 1200 cents. Whereas ICM tuning is not equi-temperament. i.e the gaps are not equi distant.

Anyway, all I wanted to know is how CM vocalist of today and yester years determine the gaps between notes. Is tambura alone is sufficient or is there something else, I am missing.

Thanks

gV

ps. I am still a beginner in any music form.